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, but the mob. i'm not going to do bothfor you. lou: here is a thought. that is, the obama white house has made a rare mistake, miscalculation. they have incentivized republicans to say, you know, the heck with it. if you're not going to come to the table, we are not going to advance it. you have chosen and we have reached an agreement as to parties for sequestration. we will go along with e tax cuts. that's your decision. sequestration was part -- we are partners on that deal. let her rip. they're going to get twice as much in the way of spending cuts as an increase in taxes that way it's the best deal, and it's also oriented toward the republicans favored. >> the damage it will do to the economy. i don think the president has a bigger role as he thinks he is. the house will be held by republicans for the foreseeable future, not just two years. midterm elections, six years, sterile for the president. the end of theday he wants a legacy. it's going to be the highest unemployment in history for two terms it is not careful. he will take us back into recession. if he wants serious negotiations tha
in the big apple. >>> and later the white house releases the first beau obama christmas video. it's much better than the old barney camp videos and we have the tape to prove us. share your thoughts on facebook and twitter. we're coming right back. of ta. it's changing the conversation. ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for watching tonight. republicans want democrats to do their dirty work when it comes to medicare. we know president obama offered $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs over the next ten years. here's andrea mitchell trying to get an answer from jason shabbets on where he has a problem with it. >> is your problem that it's not specified? or do you have to produce a laundry list before he comes up with his? >> that's wh
date for mitt romney, going to the white house to meet with president obama. >> making a run for it, a zebra and a pony. those are real pictures. welcome to "early start." this was sent to us yesterday. they said this is a serious and true story. i said no way. it is. john berman is hosting "starting point" at 7:00, it's now 5:00 a.m. in the east. first 33 days until we reach the fiscal cliff and things are heating up on capitol hill. tim geithner, the chief fiscal cliff negotiator will meet with congressional leaders in an effort to get talks moving. there's no time to waste because there may be 33 days to get a deal done, but congress breaks for the holiday. that happens in just 15 days. white house correspondent dan lothian is live from washington this morning. dan, that clock is ticking louder and louder what is the very latest? i hear there are one-on-one meetings happening today. >> that's right. these are the president himself not sitting down and talking with lawmakers, but timothy geithner will be on capitol hill and other senior level members of the administration trying t
's the scene in washington. at the white house, which bo obama has shown us what it looks like for the holidays, tonight is the first white house christmas party of the season. it's the white house christmas party for members of congress. john boehner, eric cantor, the top house republicans are all there at the white house alongside president obama tonight. and so e.j. dionne, senior fellow, friendliest person in the sunday morning circuit, while those guys are standing over the punch bowl, what should president obama be saying to them to get them to focus on what the country needs? >> i think i might say and do a couple things. i would have two really beautiful leather bound volumes and say to them, merry christmas. these are the county by county returns from the last election bound in this beautiful leather. you might want to study these. it's not 2010 anymore so let's figure out what to do. the second thing i'd say is this is a religious season so we think of religious folks. dear lord, give me chastity, but not yet. that's how you guys are with taxes. you sent me this letter. you say $800 m
by seven. obama here. dauphin county, pennsylvania. juneau county, wisconsin. another very white area obama flips it by seven points. so why did we see this shift in the political middle and should this be the real source of concern for republicans going forward? right now let's bring in the bhaen hind patchwork nation. he is at the desk. it was about the middle. there was this mythology that somehow mitt romney won the middle because he won independents. >> right. >> it is completely clear it goes not the case. >> i think that is why it is important to go into these communities we used because of the way i like to think of the middle is not just independents because it is self-described. i like talking about places because places are what they are. they can't describe themselves. the numbers describe them to you. these places are moderate places. >> one thing and you want to look at this more and you'd like to lay over some census data when you get into this. i want to go to the boom towns. the boom towns were another name for the excerpts. is that the fairest way to describe it? >> i thin
the republicans want to destroy the study for autism. but here it is black and white in the obama. we appreciate it. it's great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> now to the lottery frenzy. there's already a winner in this game. the government. not good. we're going to explain when "the kudlow report" comes right back. >>> if everything on the fiscal side caves, what incentive is there for tax reform in 20 13? >> ups believes congress does need to move very quickly to get this done. >> there are going to be many moments when it seems like there's a deal and then there are people who fight the deal, which is why we have been featuring the notion of rising above. >> all sides could lose if an agreement isn't arrived upon. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more th
on this issue of taxes. the white house saying president obama is saying rates should go up on those making $250,000 or more. these are two starting proposals. the white house has put their proposal out last week. it really drew a hard line, calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue, most of that coming from increasing taxes on wealthier americans, but this republican plan very different, does not call for increasing taxes on wealthier americans. president also wants to end congressional oversight of the debt limit. there's no such offer in the republican plan. in fact, some aides have told me that that is a pipe dream. so these two sides still very far apart. now, tonight, martin, the white house will be inviting members of congress here for the holiday party. house speaker john boehner will be here as well. there have been a lot of questions about whether these two will run into each other, whether they will talk about the fiscal cliff. no one is signaling what they might discuss, but house speaker john boehner when asked about tonight's event said that he thinks he might run into the preside
the public returned the republicans to the house, the democrats to the senate, and president obama to the white house. they want them to start solving problems. they are absolutely disgusted with this and if they go over this cliff, believe me, there's going to be a price to be paid and nobody's going to be a winner on it. >> yeah, but i do want to add, john, i do believe the president did get a partial mandate, at least the voters said the wealthy in this country ought to pay higher taxes. now, how you get to the higher tax, whether you raise rates, whether you reduce deductions, there are a lot of different ways to get there. the point is, i think everybody now agrees that -- not everybody agrees, but that we need more revenue and that the wealthy ought to be the first ones in line. and that seems to be reasonable, but i think the white house can get too stuck on this whole question of rates as opposed to finding a creative solution that brings in more money. >> david, i agree with you, but you do that through effective tax rates, not through marginal tax rates. that's how you br
the republican author of tax revenue increases. president obama, maintaining a highly believable effort of the white house and congress to resolve differences that would avoid the fiscal cliff. that is $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts and $600 billion in tax hikes that would result from the expiratin on december 31, te consequences would simply be devasting. the economic impact on the country and the american people would mean the loss of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs. e very likely onset of yet another recession. the white house timothy geithner on capitol hill today. he went there empty-handed to meet the party leaders. house speaker john boehner who has already offered to raise tax revenue finds himself not in a negotiation, but rather competing in the white house media campaign. this is how speaker boehner reacted earlier today to the demands of the white house that were laid out by timothy geithner in a closed-door meeting. the treasury secretary reiterating the president's call for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue and timothy geithner rrently offering nothin
proposal by the white house and it is clear that the democrats and president obama cannot could not believe that the republicans would agree to this. so what is going on here? >> well, that's a great question. we are doing this kabuki dance now. obama put this proposal out there so that republicans would have a chance to negotiate with him. he started with this outrageous proposal and look at what we have been able to negotiate. $1.6 trillion in tax increases down to under a trillion dollars. something like that. but there is other thinking that the president simply is not serious -- but he that he wants to go over the cliff and force in 2013, early 2013, put forward after tax rates go up on everyone -- turn around and proposed tax propose tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less p year. and voting against tax cuts for the middle-class. it depends on where you said as to how you see these negotiations playing out right now. megyn: but the white house has maintained in private even to progressive groups, but it does not want to go out thecal cliff. if you believe that? >> it's hard to imag
post," jonathan capehart and joe echevarria who was with president obama at the white house. we still have donny deutsch and katty kay with us. chuck todd, let's go to you first. does it appear, through all of the bobbing and weaving and the tap dancing that the outlines of a deal may be coming together behind the scenes? we're hearing $1.2 trillion in tax revenue. >> reporter: yeah. >> we're hearing $400 billion in medicare cuts. is this a false spring? >> reporter: i think we're a little ways away from the, quote, deal coming together. geithner today, tim geithner, who's leading negotiations, he's headed to the hill. he's got one-on-one meetings with all four players including boehner. but one on ones. not the four of them together, mcconnell, reid, pelosi, boehner. you know, this is still a game of no matter at the end of the day, this is still a game of 218. i saw the "politico" report. the number on the spending side is just lower than everything you hear. and that all depends, you know, what they describe, that's a reality that gets somehow got 150 house democrats and convinced
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visits mitt romney to the white house today and everyone is buzzing about it. could obama offer him a job? >> congratulations to someone. you just won the gdp of a small nation. not just one but two winning tickets in last night's record powerball drawing. we'll tell you where. >> and if they will be my best friend soon. we have a packed show. john ba, rasso, adam shif, rick warren, tom cole, connie and mary bono mack and steven holcomb. >> we have so many people coming up. it is thursday, november 2. "starting point" begins right now. >>> good morning, everyone. our starting point this morning, developments happening now in cairo. the u.s. embassy there is closed. no one is being allowed in or out as we speak. >> embassy officials say protesters are blocking the entrance and clashes are happening near nearby. reza sayah is nearby for us. what's happening? >> reporter: there is no indication protesters are targeting the u.s. em wibassy b it was closed as a precaution. these are protesters who clashed with police. these are the trouble-making elements, the teenagers, young men, the 20-some
the white house and president obama in his messaging and in his trip to pennsylvania on friday suggest that they believe they have the upper hand. they want the negotiations to begin with the allowing the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans to expire. and as doug said, it's true ta public opinion is on their side. public opinion overwhelmingly favors getting rid of the tax breaks for the top 2%. so i think what the white house believes is that the compromise and other areas. not on that topic. >> i want to move on to our next topic, which is burning questions. i'm going to pull a line if the latest article. the quote is some lawmakers will even be greeted with revelers singing politically themed christmas carols in the coming weeks. here's my question, what do you mean? >> that was an article about what some of the liberal groups that support the white house are doing to help push his position on the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. and so what's happening is that you've got groups all over the country, making phone calls, canvassing, getting out there and putting pressure on la
speaker boehner disagreeing with president obama under the white house proposal. the president would have the power to raise the debt limit on his own, whenever he wants, as needed. speaker boehner saying congress isn't budging on that issue and here is what he had to say on fox news sunday. >> congress will never give up the power and i made it clear to the president that when we get to the debt limit we need to cut some reforms that are greater than the increase in the debt limit. it is the only way to leverage the political process to produce more change than if left alone. >>gregg: you can see more of the remarks on "fox news sunday" at the top of the hour. >> extreme weather on the west coast flood advisories in effect for storm ravaged parts of northern california as another storm bringing heavy rain and police and fire officials wanting the napa and russian rivers expected to break their banks. and now, streaming live from northern california. >>reporter: yes, the banks are about to break any moment now, 12 hours ago there was torrential rain it looked to be tidal waves which is an
the obama administration's singular and immediate focus on the anti-islam video? >> why did you just focus on that part for so long rather thansay, look, it's not a black and white issue. >> one of the motivations may very well be either the video, the response to the video in cairo, and, certainly, that's not ruled out. >> fox news has confirmed the decision to shut down the cia annex was made in the early morning hours of septemr 12th after it took indirect fire, and while the annex was cleared of classified material and equipment in less than ten hours, the consulate less than a mileway has never been secured, lou. lou: we hear very little about who made the decision not to respd with military, para-military forces to support, and perhaps save, four americans who were killed in the attacks. >> well, here privately on capital hill from lawmakers, they wondered if the president meant there were not the assets available in the mediterranean to respond quickly. what we're seeing in the next few weeks, soon with open hearings the public can watch on capital hill, is refocusing on this -- thi
at the white house. we don't know what's on the menu when president obama, mitt romney meet for lunch today. that's right. the president is hosting his former rival about 30 minutes or so from now. it is a promise the president made during a victory speech on election night. listen. >> it's only because we love this country deeply. we care so strongly about its future. in the weeks ahead i also look forward to sitting down with governor romney to talk about where we can work together to move this country forward. >> mitt romney, he was stunned by his defeat, but gracious in his concession speech. it looked like everybody was ready to make nice until romney's remarks in a phone call to top donors days after the election. he said he lost because president obama gave policy gifts to key voting groups, including miss panics, african-americans, and young voters. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> fast forward to today when
president obama invited the major players to the white house to discuss the situation. as of this morning, no new talks are scheduled. brianna keilar joins us. so many republicans say they are pessimistic about a deal happening in time to avert this fiscal cliff. some say it's for political reasons. what can you tell us? >> it may all be for political reasons. that's no surprise in washington. as you can seen through dealmaking not just on this but things in the past couple of years between the white house and congress, there is almost this rhythm that has evolved. both sides are pointing to the other for an impasse. republicans like senator lindeyy graham just slamming the white house and tim geithner for a plan he laid out on behalf of the administration, laying out about $1.6 trillion in new revenues coupled with only about $400 billion in medicare cuts. listen to what graham said. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. this offer doesn't remotely deal with entitlement reform in a way to save medicare, medicaid and social secur
, that one day that you actually have president obama and boehner come out on the white house lawn saying they're announcing some kind of a deal, you're probably going to see a sharp rebound on the back end of it. you certainly don't want to miss out. >> jeff, what's the third thing you do? buy cans of tuna fish? >> no, i think you have to watch it. the one thing i would disagree with is i don't like dividend payers right now. i think this idea of rushing to these special dividends could come back to actually backfire on some of these companies if they're not putting their cash to good use. it's almost like they're trying to bar the door to keep investors from going out. i'm a little afraid there. i'm also afraid of munis here. on the back end of this, there's a good chance munis could lose their tax-exempt status. that could cause some problems. they've had great run here. i think they're very susceptible to talks coming from the fiscal cliff. >> i think if they took the tax-exempt status away, we'd all be in trouble. >> then what do you do? >> it's a horrible thing as far as local gover
in the individual income tax rate for the affluent may be unavoidable. obama did spend the last two years proselytizing for such a hike and voters were well aware of it when they re-elected him. but the white house has said that the rates don't have to return to clinton era levels. obama's nemesis, as he often told us, are millionaires and billionaires. so why not urge that the higher tax rates be applied only to those with incomes of $1 million and not the couples earning more than $250,000. now, i'm talking pure politics, not equity in this case. can they hang their hat on the fact, okay, you're against millionaires, we'll take back their cut for the millionaires? below that they have to get the deal. >> the problem with this is chuck schumer and other senate democrats tried to offer this to republicans last time. remember the last time we did this, they rejected it. >> it works for them now. they can say all we want is the schumer deal. >> right now they don't have the leverage to get the schumer deal. they rejected the schumer deal. they don't have the leverage to get it. >> here we d
contributor lanny davis. you're a big government guy and you like obama care. you bi believe in big governmen. you've 54 beautiful christmas trees in the white house, two outings playing government since the election, you've got a 20-day vacation that's going to cost the taxpayers millions going to hawaii, and yet people are without homes and power, and families are getting kicked out of hotels, lanny davis. where is this ever-loving government that's supposed to take care of everybody? >> well, first of all, the tragedy of what those people are going through, they need more help. >> where is it? where is the president that came up the week before the election? where is he? >> well, he should be doing more. i agree with that. >> he should be. >> the people of new jersey saw what he did for them, and the governor of new jersey, a republican, was grateful for what he did, but it hasn't been a perfect performance. >> that was week one in the middle of the cleax. >> we're a month after the election. we need to do more for those poor people. i would point out to you that your double standard about
. president obama and this cabinet stood by her. >> mrs. rice is extraordinary. i couldn't be prouder of the job that she has done. [ applause ] >> and joining me now from the white house, nbc news correspondent viqueira. vic, will the gop continue its pile-on of the ambassador? will it have the opposite effect of hardening the president and daring him essentially to select her for secretary of state perhaps? >> well, you know, it's hard to say exactly what is going through the president's mind at this point. a lot of people think that he is really under the gun to make an appointment, but hillary clinton is still the secretary of state. he may have some time yet. perhaps even as much as a month or up to the inauguration on january 20th. so there is that. second of all, susan rice made that pilgrimage, if you will, up to the senate after all the criticism that she got from john mccain and lindsey graham and other key republican senators after her appearance on the sunday shows talking about the incident in benghazi. they were so angry because they say she disseminated false informatio
the globe today is world aids day, the white house marking the event by displaying a red ribbon on the north portico, a life picture of the white house, an international show of support and awareness, in a proclamation president obama says in part that the united states is committed to preventing the disease is quote, spending and ending this pandemic once and for all. >> do same-sex couples have a constitutional right to mayor? we don't know yet. the u.s. supreme court held a closed-door meeting to decide whether to hear a series of appeals. but they didn't say if they will take action on the divisive issue. some took this as a sign that nine justices need more time. we expect an announcement by monday morning. >>> and we continue to keep an eye on former president george h.w. bush this morning who is in stable condition at houston's methodist hospital. he was admitted eight days ago and is being treated for bronchitis. his office says the former president is expected to be released in the next few days. bush is 88 years old. the oldest living former president. >>> and to staten island now
general plan to overcome the opposition. >> president obama pile on praise that sounds like anything but. a farewell for hillary clinton. i'm fighting a fiscal cough, so pardon that. if it's always darkest. it's clear the white house-re house-republican leaders, both sides appear to be very far apart, saluting kennedy center honorees from dustin hoffman to led zeppelin and hitting the golf links with former president bill clinton. the guy with whom he will have to make a deal to end the standoff on the fiscal cliff house speaker john boehner requested time on fox news to publicly declare the president's opening bid a nonstarter. >> i was flabbergasted. we're nowhere. >> treasury secretary tim geithner did the full ginsberg with taped appearances on all five shows. nothing will happen until budget tax rates and the ball is now in their court. >> the only thing that stands in the way of a deal right now is if a group of republican members decide there have been a block because they can't afford the wealthiest 2% of americans. >> how much is theater and how much are the two sides locked int
a couple of counties that would epitomize that shift, you look at ohio and the white working class counties along the ohio river, coal country, belmont county, ohio, gave john kerry 52% of the vote in 2004. obama only won 44.7% this time around. if you had to look at a county that captures where democrats are doing better and better, it's probably in your home state, chuck, osceola, florida. outside of orlando, kissimmee, st. cloud, huge growing puerto rican population. consider that john kerry only won 47% of the vote there in 2004. guess where obama was this year? 61.7%. >> i challenge anybody to find another county with that dramatic of an uptick, that size of a county. speaking of counties, the bellwether presidential -- now the state with the longest streak is ohio. missouri lost its standing a couple of cycles ago. ohio, every winning election back to '64 if that's correct, right? '60 was the last time they were wrong. >> if anyone has been to terre haute, indiana, they have successfully predicted the winner of every presidential election back to 1956 and guess what the total was this
and went with obama early on, who have yet to get a phone call from the white house in four years. they have not -- these people feel that they just want a little love. and it doesn't cost much. >> andrea, when you say that, people think that i'm just saying that as a republican. i always discount republican criticisms of the president. i always have. i'm talking about the same people you're talking about. >> i know. >> i'm talking about the top democrats in the united states senate that say -- >> he just doesn't like it. >> he doesn't want to talk to us. he doesn't like us. he doesn't want to deal with us. >> when you're in politics and you run for president, that's the problem. and there are some things you've got to do. i'm sure they don't want to stand in receiving lines and greet thousands of people this christmas season, but they do that. >> they do it, yeah. steve, we're not piling this all on the president. you have republicans that haven't wanted to make a deal for a very long time. and i guess the question is, how do you make the deal? do you start by getting -- because
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house in all their frequent communications with the white house that they need to tell the white house to start talking to house republicans. so ceos in the business community right in the middle of this negotiation. >> eamon javers, thank you. >>> john harwood has the latest on mr. obama's big meeting with some of those ceos. john? >> the other way the ceos are in the middle of this is the president appeared before the business roundtable today as part of his effort to continue rounding up support from various constituencies for what he calls a balanced approach. one of the things he pressed was a priority that the head of the business roundtable, john eng r engler, has suggested which is a longer term fix to the debt ceiling problem. remember that it was a catastrophic standoff in mid 2011 that caused the downgrade in u.s. credit. president said he's simply not going to negotiate in the negotiating process that results in the same kind of stand-off. here is the president. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to t
president obama and john boehner. >> no substantive progress has been made in talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. the white house has to get serious. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it. we've said it. we've said it so many times. >> i think all of us today are confident we can reach a bipartisan agreement by christmastime. >> according to a congressional republican aides who have talked to "the wall street journal," they obtained a copy of the white house prover here in the negotiations. >> do you have faith in any of them to rise above? >> would it be okay to go over? >> we will rise above. >> eamon javers joins us live from washington. they seem farther apart than ever before. the dow is above 13,000 for the first time in several weeks. do you think the markets are reading comments correctly? >> i do think markets have gotten it wrong a lot this week. they have been reacting strongly to things that are boilerplate information and basic statements from congress that we hear all the time and markets are taking that the wrong way. last night
. >> good morning. so boehner has said he would accept a tax increase of $800. the white house plan is asking for $1.6 trillion, which is double that. why did president obama put forth such an aggressive plan, as many are calling it? this is really a serious offer. >> first of all i'd like our republican friends to stop a war on the working people of america. that is what the ultimate nonaction will impact. i think the president has made it very clear that he is responding to the affirmation of his position on november 6th, 2012. but he is not in any way hesitant to negotiate. $2.4 trillion were the bush tax cuts that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that he's not willing to
. >> shannon: who will blink first? the obama administration says the ball is in the g.o.p.'s court. republicans insist it's the president's turn to get serious about dealing with our country's debt. >> it's unfortunate that the white house spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> this is a very carefully designed set of reforms. if republicans would like to go beyond these reforms, or they want to do it differently, they should tell us how they want to do it. >> i believe raising tax rates hurts our economy, hurts the prospects for more jobs in our country. >> shannon: as the sparring continues over the fiscal cliff, neither boehner nor geithner can say for certain that the country will not go over the edge. i'm shannon bream. america's news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. >> shannon: we want to get to the budget standoff. peter doocy joins us live. there is time to strike a deal but not a lot. >> reporter: that's right. the speaker of the house john boehner made a point today to say there is not much time between election day and the end of the y
's right. house republicans say there will be no deal if tax ritz go up and the obama administration says it's ready to go thelma and louise style over the cliff on january 1. if that's the case, wendell goler live at the white house with what we know is going on behind the scenes. anything happening? >> steve, the president and house speaker john boehner talked on the phone yesterday, but they agreed not to characterize their conversation. so it's unclear how much progress they made. from the outside, it does seem they've moved a bit closer with boehner now agreeing to raise tax collection from the wealthy, though not by raising tax rates. >> we've got to cut spending and i believe to put revenues on the table. the revenues we're putting on the table will come from, guess who, the rich! there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes, and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >> the president lobbied big business leaders yesterday with an appearance at the business round table. his aide
've got a pen. i've still got a pen, i've still got a pen. >> president obama owes president clinton a great deal for helping him get elected. number one, we need a meaningful citizen education engagement effort with the white house in formada, next year to build the case for a grand bargain. the official version of what i did and what my colleagues did over the last several months and we need congressional hearings that will set the stage for tax reforms, social security reform and the president needs to negotiate privately and have discussions with congressional leaders of both parties privately. those three things can get us to the promt promise land. and without all three of those, we're in trouble. >> but, david, that is exactly what was supposed to happen between july of 2011 and today. and guess what? none of it has happened. none of it. we're having the same conversation. >> you know what? >> only the president can lead. only the president can lead. >> he has the pen. he has joe's pen. >> mine is a viagra pen. wouldn't that be embarrassing if he held that up and said i have a
to be something to do with 10:00 a.m., right? >> for sure. for sure. in addition to that, the white house team is reporting that it is apparent the gop may not dig in over the fiscal cliff and we may delay the fight. president obama addresses the business roundtable and that could be critical. david has an exclusive interview with ken moelis. back to you guys. >> let's get six in 60. six stocks in 60 seconds. >> yesterday's news overshadowed by many things. a fantastic quarter. we knew it would be household formation buying on weakness. >> 17 straight. number of quarters where they beat it. this was a major miss. >> rbc does not like clf. this is again china. i don't like it either but china is coming back. >> naz 100 taking on facebook. >> money is an index to the naz 100. people paid for this in premarket. it was a mistake. >> citi thinks limited can do a special div. >> limited has a lot of cash. gap said no yesterday. hurt the stock. >> goldman starts utx neutral. great company. a slap in the face, carl. boom. slap in the face. >> you got that right. what's on "mad" tonight? >> i have been
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